Although I would prefer it to a $5 billion flush of my money down the tube.
Also, I realize I’m probably preaching to the choir but, cmon, you know I have to address it.
I learned a few years a lot about immigration. Not from law school but many of my colleagues did take immigration law. They learned a lot and told (taught?) a lot. I also learned about immigration from working with immigrants. I have friends who work at various stages of the government for various agencies and not one of them have ever, ever said “You know, if we could just build a fucking wall, they wouldn’t even need me to (arrest, prosecute, sheriff, police, detain, whatever)!” NOT. A. ONE.
I learned, for example, that most illegal immigrants are not crossing the southern border. Nor are they on foot. Most fly here legally and then just overstay their legal welcome. And you know I’m gonna tell you the truth and back it up so here’s NPR’s link to all the research and data that says the same:
About 700,000 travelers to the United States overstayed their visas in fiscal 2017, the most recent year for which the Department of Homeland Security has published figures. DHS estimated that, as of Sept. 30, 2017, the end of that fiscal year, more than 600,000 of those travelers were still in the U.S.
During that same year, there were just 300,000 apprehensions along the Southern border, according to Customs and Border Protection — the lowest number since 1971.
I can already hear the Trump supporters- its the lowest cuz we got them runnin skeered! Sure. Whatever shape you need your pacifier in, take it because the thing is, apprehensions went down EVERYWHERE, not just where a wall is being threatened.
There is so much that pisses me off about this whole thing. First, it costs a fuck ton to build this wall. We could have funded soooooooooooo much good stuff (education, healthcare) with the same amount. So you don’t want to help the poor and young, well guess what? I don’t want to help you waste my time and money.
Second: they are not here illegally when they approach the border. Approaching the border is how you apply for asylum. Really, as Trevor Noah of the Daily Show points out, what we need is a wall made up of lawyers and judges to process applications quicker. And for what it’s worth, I’m part of a lawyer group that is doing just that: sending lawyers to the border to help keep families together and get paperwork filed.
Third: There is not a single wall in history that has worked. Ask Hadrian. Ask China. Walls have never worked and they wont start now. Walls simply create tunnels and people sawing through them. A mexican representative climbed the wall already in place to show how useless this idea was. This wall will NOT curb drugs as drugs crossing the border is the lower percentage of how drugs get to the US (think semi-trucks, planes, and boats). This also small percentage at the border area means it won’t be able to fund itself for many, many years. It’s like saving tips from a restaurant to buy a house in the suburbs. It can be done but its gonna take a long ass time.
And don’t get all party system on me because the Democrats did offer to pay for the wall. Yeah, you read that right. I bet trump supporters didn’t.
Democrats passed legislation the day they took control of the House that offered $1.3 billion for border security, including physical barriers and technology along the U.S. southern border.
Senate Democrats have approved similar funding year after year.
Democrats have also supported broader fence-building as part of deals that also had a path to legal status for millions of immigrants living in the country illegally.
In 2013, Senate Democrats voted for a failed immigration bill that provided roughly $46 billion for a number of border security measures — including new fencing — but that legislation would have created a pathway to citizenship for some of the estimated 11 million immigrants living in the U.S. illegally.
The 2013 Border Security, Economic Opportunity and Immigration Modernization Act had money to double the number of miles of fencing, to 1,126 km, as well as for more border patrol agents. It also had a mandatory employment verification system to ensure all U.S. employees are authorized to work in the country. In exchange, however, the bill allowed immigrants living in the country illegally to apply for a provisional legal status if they paid a $500 fine and had no felony convictions.
As well, many Democrats voted for the Secure Fence Act of 2006, which has resulted in the construction of about 1,050 kilometres of border barrier. But that legislation didn’t authorize the kind of wall Trump has long been advocating since he launched his campaign.
So basically SCROTUS wants things done his way or the highway and is willing to sacrifice all federal employees to his own pedestal.
“But we’re all gonna get murdered or raped or robbed or all of the above!!”
Multiple studies from social scientists and the libertarian think-tank Cato Institute have found that people here illegally are less likely to commit crime than U.S. citizens, and legal immigrants are even less likely to do so.
A March study by the journal Criminology found “undocumented immigration does not increase violence.”
The study, which looked at the years 1990 through 2014, said states with bigger shares of such people have lower crime rates.
As well, a study in 2017 by Robert Adelman, a sociology professor at University of Buffalo, analyzed 40 years of crime data in 200 metropolitan areas and found that immigrants helped lower crime. New York City, for example, has the nation’s largest population of immigrants living in the country illegally — about 500,000 — and last year had only 289 murders among a total population of 8.5 million people, according to preliminary data.
Those numbers mean a person’s odds of becoming a victim of homicide in tightly packed, diverse New York City were about the same as they were in Wyoming, Montana and South Dakota.
And Ruben Rumbaut, a University of California, Irvine sociology professor, co-authored a recent study that noted crime rates fell sharply from 1990 to 2015 at a time when illegal immigration spiked.
I know I’ve already addressed that appealing to SCROTUS supporters with facts and logic doesn’t work but maybe I’ve armed you with some wisdom to at least know exactly how wrong they are.